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Post by aod on Apr 2, 2005 14:10:57 GMT -5
Yeah, its just you. Take it from the music god, there are a few bands are still around that have withstood the progression of time and will never be has beens- the Rolling Stones, Depeche Mode, Aerosmith, and U2. And if they come out with a new album within the next 3 to 5 years, the Red Hot Chili Peppers will be added to that. I was kidding about the "maybe it's just me" part. U2 is horrible, and your opinion, Mr. "Music God," doesn't change anything. In fact, considering that you answered my baited question and actually LIKE Maroon 5, your opinion on music is officially stupid. News flash: just because your musical landscape is a veritable wasteland and you've been listening to the Rolling Stones, Depeche Mode, Aerosmith and U2 for a long time because you have nothing better to which to listen doesn't make them timeless. It makes you pathetic.
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Post by aod on Apr 2, 2005 14:17:15 GMT -5
Consider the alternatives... 50s- no sex before marriage 60s- Beatles, Stones, The Who, Led Zepplin, Jefferson Airplane, Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix 70s- Steely Dan, Simon & Garfunkel, AC/DC 80s- Complete and utter shit, Rush 90s- Beck, Garbage, Radiohead, Rage Against the Machine, Soundgarden, Nirvana, Sublime, Ivy I have no idea what I'm talking about.
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Post by kinkykingkal on Apr 2, 2005 15:21:26 GMT -5
Among the great stuff from the 80s-
Depeche Mode Michael Jackson Prince Duran Duran Aerosmith Madonna Cyndi Lauper The Police of course U2 and... METAL!!!
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Post by kinkykingkal on Apr 2, 2005 15:22:31 GMT -5
I was kidding about the "maybe it's just me" part. U2 is horrible, and your opinion, Mr. "Music God," doesn't change anything. In fact, considering that you answered my baited question and actually LIKE Maroon 5, your opinion on music is officially stupid. News flash: just because your musical landscape is a veritable wasteland and you've been listening to the Rolling Stones, Depeche Mode, Aerosmith and U2 for a long time because you have nothing better to which to listen doesn't make them timeless. It makes you pathetic. Its on now bitch, I'm one person on this forum you don't want to f**k with. Crawl back into your hole and enjoy endless hours of anal sex with N'Sync, Brittney Spears, and P Diddy and keep your lack of musical taste to yourself.
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Post by aod on Apr 2, 2005 17:28:51 GMT -5
Its on now bitch, I'm one person on this forum you don't want to f**k with. Crawl back into your hole and enjoy endless hours of anal sex with N'Sync, Brittney Spears, and P Diddy and keep your lack of musical taste to yourself. *yawn* 1) Silly "internet badass" posturing makes you look stupid. 2) There are only two reasons why, after my previous post (which made pretty clear what my musical tastes are), you would still think I like bland sugar-pop and gangsta rap: a) You're illiterate, thus unable to read the post. b) You're a dumbass. The fact that you're replying to me rules out a); therefore, it's safe to conclude that you're a dumbass. 3) Cyndi Lauper? Madonna? And I'm the one who lacks good musical taste? For emphasis:
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Post by kinkykingkal on Apr 3, 2005 5:51:50 GMT -5
What I mean to say by my post, Mr. Rosenblum, is that I have a lot of time on my hands, I hate doing homework, I hate humanity in general and its recent appauling string of failures, AND I get a massive boner by making easy target arrogant little malaperts finally start to realize that there's no one more pompous and arrogant than I am, so sit the f*ck down and read every word I have to say about your wannabe infallible taste in music.
I was hoping that a few simple insults could cut you down and make you refrain from knocking alex's exquisite musical tastes, but clearly I'm speaking with someone who is beyond rational thought, with no clue, who'd yell "N*gger" at a Black Panther meeting. "I'm big and bad because I listen to 90s whiner music, and whoever else doesn't is a loser". Don't give me that bullshit about not listening to the genres I alluded to, you know you do, you know you like it, but you're so insecure that you're afraid to admit it. What's wrong, afraid we'll think you're queer?
I fail to see the purpose of coming in and knocking on a guy's favorite piece of music and baselessly proclaiming your trendy, mainstream piece of shit music to be superior.
Seriously, who REALLY knew who Steely Dan was before they won the Grammy out of the Blue?
Remember when "Rage Against the Machine" played at the Democratic National Convention? Sure it probably made people like you go "whoa, that's so EXTREME and HARDCORE, cuz they're like PROTESTING, man!" when people like me couldn't help but admire the marketing genius and laugh at the irony how in their hype they managed to so well neuter their so-called ideals by so institutionalizing their playing. At least U2 doesn't bullsh*t and try to polarize the world against their political adversaries while hypocritically being systematic and conventional.
Beck- self professed artistic genius for, among other less than wowing things, singing part of a chorus in a language they can't pronounce (Que Onda Guero... a testament to atrocity). Generally all right music all around, good variety, but not the best thing since sliced bread, and certainly not a band anyone will remember in 20 years. Come to think of it, a lot of people are all ready starting to forget.
Nirvana- sure, great music... but the band was around for what, 5 years... maybe one or two of those were where anyone knew who they were?... then the lead vocalist marries Courtney "WTF Was I Thinking" Love, and ultimately decided to put a gaping hole in his head. They should make a compilation album entitled "An Extremely Short Story About a Talented Failure", and release it laced with contact poison, so that all the other losers that weep, wail, and worship Kurt Cobain, now 11 years after he popped his top can get the f*ck over it and join him.
As for the rest of your music, I either approve, can't remember a single song by their group, or, despite my frowning on the outside- smile, just a little, on the inside.
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Post by kinkykingkal on Apr 3, 2005 6:54:01 GMT -5
...because you have nothing better to which to listen... My sentiments exactly, there really IS nothing better to listen to, is there?
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Post by kinkykingkal on Apr 3, 2005 7:27:43 GMT -5
a) You're illiterate, thus unable to read the post. b) You're a dumbass. The fact that you're replying to me rules out a); therefore, it's safe to conclude that you're a dumbass. Aww, he acknowledges that I can read his nonsense. How cute. And for no reason other than I need a scapegoat, I'm blaming Mac Man for everything aod posts from now on.
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Post by kinkykingkal on Apr 3, 2005 7:44:06 GMT -5
considering that you answered my baited question and actually LIKE Maroon 5, your opinion on music is officially stupid. Stating that "I'm not much for the mainstream modern day stuff they try to pass off as music" really shows off my "...LIKE..." of Maroon 5, eh? I stated those two songs were good for their mellowing effect, which they are. Quit being so militant about your worthless musical pride. Try going to a piano recital or something, get out of that suffocating box, cutting off air and blood to your ears, deafening you to the point of only wanting to hear the garbage to which you insist on listening. Crickey, he's like one of those intolerant Christian extremists.
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Post by aod on Apr 3, 2005 11:57:53 GMT -5
1. I am a hypocrite who has nothing else to do with my time. Arguing on the internet makes me feel good about myself. 2. I continue to make baseless accusations, from racism to homosexuality to, yet again, a lack of good taste in music, despite having no evidence to support my claims. 3. Just in case you forgot by now, I am still a hypocrite. 4. People who liked good music knew about Steely Dan, which, I suppose, excludes me. 5. I continue to make baseless claims, and in the process prove that I am unable to separate an artist's music from an artist's political beliefs and enjoy the one while ignoring the other. I am also blissfully unaware of the fact that U2 is a group of sanctimonious airheads who believe that by wearing stupid glasses and playing bad music, which, by the way, is quite systematic and conventional, they can change the world. 6. In addition to all of my previous logical lapses, I am now able to ignore over five albums of consistently great music that alternates between genre-shifting and genre exploration because someone mispronounced some Spanish. I am also the master of the unsupported generalization. 7. I do not realize that however long a band was obscure has nothing to do with the quality of their music, and that fame =/= talent. I then judge an artist's music based on his personal life, despite the fact that, as in the case of Rage Against the Machine, the one can be enjoyed while ignoring the other. I then proceed to show that I am incapable of a good sarcastic insult. 8. Finally, I act under the mistaken assumption that my opinion means anything to you.
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Post by MD on Apr 3, 2005 14:48:32 GMT -5
Can a troll imprisoned be In the bridge of a song ?
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Post by MD on Apr 3, 2005 14:52:48 GMT -5
For the record, and in hope it'll help end up the sad quarrell: in all objectivity, I'm probably the one around with the shittiest musical tastes... I even enjoyed Ryoji Ikeda's Matrix project. Yeah that bad.
Now, please, let's all behave. Our kind hostess (and host, while I think about it !) deserves better, doesn't she ?
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Post by kinkykingkal on Apr 3, 2005 14:55:54 GMT -5
"1. I am a hypocrite who has nothing else to do with my time. Arguing on the internet makes me feel good about myself."
Point out the hypocrisy. Don't toss around a word you obviously don't know the meaning of and can't back up. As for the rest of it, yup, makes me feel really good about myself. Like the size of my penis knows no bounds.
"2. I continue to make baseless accusations, from racism to homosexuality to, yet again, a lack of good taste in music, despite having no evidence to support my claims."
Once again, you obviously don't know the definition of your words. An accusation is when you allege a shortcoming or error. I never alleged that you are either racist or homosexual in that particular piece of writing. I DID allege that you don't know when to keep your mouth shut by saying that you'd be stupid enough to perform a racist act in front of militant african americans, and threw out a reason for you to ponder on why you choose to express an obviously overinflated hatred of particular musical groups, namely that you're so insecure that you'll think that if people knew you listened, they'd think you were a homosexual. But I guess that kind of thinking is too advanced for you.
"3. Just in case you forgot by now, I am still a hypocrite."
Once again, you say something and don't back it up with facts. Who cares what you posit and exclaim if you put no reasons why you feel that way.
"4. People who liked good music knew about Steely Dan, which, I suppose, excludes me."
I guess there are only a few select people who liked good music... however, I see that in the oceans of writing that goes no where, you make ONE solid point. And I will take back and rephrase what I said about Steely Dan. What I meant to say was "Very few people liked Steely Dan, and for good reason". Even after getting a Grammy, which SHOULD have propelled their fame to great heights if they actually made good music by sparking an interest in their work, you ask the average person on the street if they like Steely Dan and they'll reply "Steely Who?" Music that is truly good and better than U2, if put out there and made into a national spectacle by being marked for greatness by receiving the highest award in music- made available and accessable to everyone, and yet even still no one cares is a sign that maybe their music really isn't all that good. This could be some sort of tremendous anomaly that defies all logic, but until you give me reasons to think otherwise, my argument makes far more sense than yours.
"5. I continue to make baseless claims, and in the process prove that I am unable to separate an artist's music from an artist's political beliefs and enjoy the one while ignoring the other. I am also blissfully unaware of the fact that U2 is a group of sanctimonious airheads who believe that by wearing stupid glasses and playing bad music, which, by the way, is quite systematic and conventional, they can change the world."
When a group's claim to fame, and their very band name is so fundamentally intertwined with a political statement or movement, it only makes sense to attack their hypocrisy when they don't adhere to the politics they want everyone else to dogmatically follow.
"6. In addition to all of my previous logical lapses, I am now able to ignore over five albums of consistently great music that alternates between genre-shifting and genre exploration because someone mispronounced some Spanish. I am also the master of the unsupported generalization."
I'll concede it... you really are a master of unsupported generalization. However, my generalizations, with full backing and support of details that I included, so that someone like you could understand why I say what I have to say, make me a master of well-supported generalization. I gave my opinion, with specific reasons for that opinion. Its your task to refute my position and point out its flaws and weaknesses, by pointing out flaws and weaknesses in the details I used to assert my position. Clearly you can't do that because you know I'm right.
"7. I do not realize that however long a band was obscure has nothing to do with the quality of their music, and that fame =/= talent. I then judge an artist's music based on his personal life, despite the fact that, as in the case of Rage Against the Machine, the one can be enjoyed while ignoring the other. I then proceed to show that I am incapable of a good sarcastic insult."
The discussion turned into one about timelessness (particularly U2's timelessness) at some point by your irresponsible postings. If you didn't want to go there, then don't go there. I merely pointed out why Nirvana, though it made some good stuff, is not timeless. I built the argument that it doesn't make sense to say U2 isn't great, and then bring up a band that would do better as a cult movement than as a musical group, and want us to give any credence to your statement. Basically what you said is "Since U2 won't be timeless, you shouldn't like it" and then bring up Nirvana? Please.
"8. Finally, I act under the mistaken assumption that my opinion means anything to you."
Says the guy woundedly responding to my post. If it didn't mean anything to you, you'd just say "OK, that's your opinion" and move on, not sit there and spend an hour to find a way to make me look a fool, setting yourself up to be torn down by me. You are hurt and angry at what I have to say about your phony, crappy music, just like how you tried to make that alex guy feel, and so you post and post. Your pride means nothing on this forum, everything we both write will be forgotten in a few days, so why not just admit that what I said really pisses you off and you do, indeed take my opinions to heart.
And in case you're wondering, I care.
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Post by kinkykingkal on Apr 3, 2005 15:00:42 GMT -5
Now, please, let's all behave. Our kind hostess (and host, while I think about it !) deserves better, doesn't she ? That's right... stop attacking people's taste in music while you yourself has no taste, aod. Be a man like MD and admit that your taste is lacking. (though I don't find fault with your taste, MD... you just haven't awakened to the greatness that is the 80s)
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Post by MD on Apr 3, 2005 15:28:34 GMT -5
Actually, what I really can't stand with the 80's are the unfiltered drum sets. That sound. Those claps. I'd rip my ears. T_T Add to that clothing colors and cuts I like even less than the 70's and, well you get my drift...
But there sure are things to keep. Dead Can Dance ? (I mean even if you don't like the music, the voices !) Cocteau Twins ? Pierre Henry ? Pierre Boulez ? (maybe not)...
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