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Post by CapnARRR on Oct 4, 2004 3:52:08 GMT -5
It has a crack in it!
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Post by kinkykingkal on Oct 4, 2004 20:51:14 GMT -5
I want a cool resident title... If Capnarrr gets to be God, I wanna be the resident Twitching Sociopath.
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Post by CapnARRR on Oct 5, 2004 16:15:58 GMT -5
Raziel, you must be my reaver of stink!
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Post by coolc on Oct 27, 2004 18:14:33 GMT -5
I request a cool title too! And not something stupid, how about turd burgler?
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Post by MacManDeluxe on Oct 27, 2004 21:39:16 GMT -5
... what is WRONG with you people? God. Get a mac. Seriously.
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Post by CapnARRR on Oct 27, 2004 21:58:40 GMT -5
... what is WRONG with you people? God. Get a mac. Seriously. I hardly see what spending money on an overpriced piece of hardware has to do with the crack in my ass, unless you are specifying the orifice out of which I must bleed to afford one.
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Post by MacManDeluxe on Oct 27, 2004 22:12:54 GMT -5
I don't know what you mean by "overpriced". When you buy a cheap PC, you get what you paid for. A plastic box that seems to work until you want it to do something. When you buy a mac, you also get what you paid for. A quality piece of hardware with a far superior operating system that actually works *gasp!*
Disclaimer: replies based entirely on nothing deserve a reply based only on personal opinion and divine truth, as shown above.
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Post by CapnARRR on Oct 27, 2004 22:21:05 GMT -5
I don't know what you mean by "overpriced". When you buy a cheap PC, you get what you paid for. A plastic box that seems to work until you eant it to do something. When you buy a mac, you also get what you paid for. A quality piece of hardware with a far superior operating system that actually works *gasp!* Disclaimer: replies based entirely on nothing deserve a reply based only on personal opinion and divine truth, as shown above. Right... because windows is the only operating system that can ever be installed on a PC... I build my own computers from scratch and dual boot to Linux. Windows is only really good for games and bootleg software. I recently put together a 3.2ghz 800mhz fsb pent, 1 gig ram, 160 gig hard drive, DVD burner with an AZUS mobo and Radeon 9800 for under $900. Lets see you come close to its speed for the same price using proprietary mac hardware. By the way, do you know what operating system your beloved OSX is based off of? Unix, same as linux. Both are stable.
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Post by kinkykingkal on Oct 27, 2004 22:31:03 GMT -5
Right... because windows is the only operating system that can ever be installed on a PC... I build my own computers from scratch and dual boot to Linux. Windows is only really good for games and bootleg software. I recently put together a 3.2ghz 800mhz fsb pent, 1 gig ram, 160 gig hard drive, DVD burner with an AZUS mobo and Radeon 9800 for under $900. Lets see you come close to its speed for the same price using proprietary mac hardware. By the way, do you know what operating system your beloved OSX is based off of? Unix, same as linux. Both are stable. Ha.
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Post by MacManDeluxe on Oct 27, 2004 22:53:40 GMT -5
Yes, and the Linux operating system is free. Correct me if I'm wrong, but all you're paying for is the hardware. Cuz the Software is FREE. One thing that linux does lack is ease of use. Yes, the command line is quite possibly the most powerful tool (osx can do it too), but for your average user, who can barely point and click, OSX is the way to go without contest. And you gotta admit. Macs look the best. No contest. And I'm not just talking about the design of the hardware, but the operating system itself. It's a pleasure to do things on a mac, you have visual references that make it easy to find things, and the ability to fully customize your preferences so that it both looks and feels like it's your unique computer. I realize what I just said may not make a lot of sense, and do realize this is all personal opinion, but OSX just feels right. Things are done behind the scenes to make networking almost plug-n-go, and most things are in general easier on a mac. You have FUN going through all the cool visual effects, and they aren't just effects, they actually help (like expose and widgets, and the cool dock). You can actually make most commands point and click (for example, I can connect to the internet using my cell phone via bluetooth, and OSX guided me through all of the necessary steps. All I have to do now is click the connect button on the menu bar). And, to answer your question, yes, I am fully aware that both linux and OSX are based on unix. It is just that OSX seems to have taken it a step farther than linux has in terms of gooey interface (and therefore ease of use).
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Post by CapnARRR on Oct 27, 2004 23:35:36 GMT -5
Yes, and the Linux operating system is free. Correct me if I'm wrong, but all you're paying for is the hardware. Cuz the Software is FREE. One thing that linux does lack is ease of use. Yes, the command line is quite possibly the most powerful tool (osx can do it too), but for your average user, who can barely point and click, OSX is the way to go without contest. And you gotta admit. Macs look the best. No contest. And I'm not just talking about the design of the hardware, but the operating system itself. It's a pleasure to do things on a mac, you have visual references that make it easy to find things, and the ability to fully customize your preferences so that it both looks and feels like it's your unique computer. I realize what I just said may not make a lot of sense, and do realize this is all personal opinion, but OSX just feels right. Things are done behind the scenes to make networking almost plug-n-go, and most things are in general easier on a mac. You have FUN going through all the cool visual effects, and they aren't just effects, they actually help (like expose and widgets, and the cool dock). You can actually make most commands point and click (for example, I can connect to the internet using my cell phone via bluetooth, and OSX guided me through all of the necessary steps. All I have to do now is click the connect button on the menu bar). And, to answer your question, yes, I am fully aware that both linux and OSX are based on unix. It is just that OSX seems to have taken it a step farther than linux has in terms of gooey interface (and therefore ease of use). There are a number of Linux distros that are as intuitive as OSX or windows. Ever tried red hat or SUSE? SUSE Linux, for example, is able to automatically detect Bluetooth devices. Mandrake is good too if you don't mind paying. KDE is almost exactly like windows and Gnome isn't hard to figure out at all. Macs do look better, I never said they didn't, but to me it’s not worth the extra thousand to make my computer look pretty when i could have several computers or a nice LCD monitor instead. I've used macs for years now and the cute GUI wears off fast. Most of the more complicated procedures can be accomplished with the right drivers and install packages, the steps for which can be acquired via a simple Google inquiry.
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Post by MacManDeluxe on Oct 30, 2004 0:06:07 GMT -5
I too request a cool title. I was thinking something along the lines of "the Anti - Everyone".
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Post by MacManDeluxe on Nov 4, 2004 19:14:16 GMT -5
I recently put together a 3.2ghz 800mhz fsb pent, 1 gig ram, 160 gig hard drive, DVD burner with an AZUS mobo and Radeon 9800 for under $900. That's quite cheap. Can I see the complete parts list for that?
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Post by MacManDeluxe on Nov 11, 2004 0:05:34 GMT -5
Alright, don't respond. I don't care.
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Post by CapnARRR on Jan 25, 2005 3:54:56 GMT -5
Alright, don't respond. I don't care. Yet you cared enough to post that. Anyway, here are the parts I used and the prices i got them for (old prices, you could probably get them for even less today): Motherboard: ASUS P4C800 - $100 Has onboard Firewire, USB2.0, SATA drive connection and Onboard sound and Gigabit Ethernet connection Processor: Pentium 4: 3.2 Ghz Hyper threading chip - $200 RAM: 2 Sticks of 512meg PC3200 (400mhz) - $150 used old 160 gig hard drive from previous comp, 7200 RPM Maxtor Case: Antec Sonata (surprisingly quiet power supply and internal fan) $60 after rebate, which I got Graphics Card: Radeon 9800 Pro - $200 (could have gotten cheaper if i bought OEM) Modem: Piece of shit telephony modem i found in the trash (works fine, i hardly ever use a modem anyway) DVD Drive: Sony DRU-510A (DVD-,+R) - $100 OS: Winblows (free, actually legit work copy), Linux (always free) = $810 + $66.83 tax Total: $876.83 Now let’s get things clear, nobody's attacking your precious Macs for anything other than their yuppiness and overpriced hardware. With the coming of OSX, they've become good systems, very reliable and stable. The problem is, they charge about double what they're worth simply because they look neat and have proprietary hardware that is designed to integrate with the rest of the system. This is good news if you never plan to upgrade and bad news if you're on a budget and want more performance for less cash. Also, they don't always "just work." Like any computer, if you're trying to do something specific with them, you can run into problems. Granted, OSX is a better alternative to winblows, but then again, so is a typewriter or abacus. That being said, I did recently order a Mac mini for movie watching in other rooms and to have a stable, non gaming OS to do writing, cartooning, photo editing (OSX and Apple procs have superior 2D mapping capabilities, not so much 3D however), networking, movie watching etc. Only reason I ordered it, of course, is because it was cheap and I can easily slap a stick of non Apple brand RAM in it for 1/4 the price they're asking... What computer should you buy? If you want to play most of the newest available 3D games and use the latest applications, emulators, etc. and are on a budget, get a PC. If you want a PC that you don’t have to use any brain cells to set up or maintain, plan on doing graphic design, have over $2000 - $3000 that you don’t mind parting with, and want something that looks pretty, then by all means get a mac.
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